Clan Hay

Hello all, I have been researching my heritage and recently found I belong to Clay Hay.

OK Clan Hay, if the Clan Hay tartan appears to be one of the Sobreski Brother suspect tartans, the Hay/Leith Tartan dates to at least the 1719 Wilson of Bannockburn pattern book. So what is known abo...

August 3, 2013 9:09 pm
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Robert L. Ayers

I am Robert L. Ayers of San Diego California. In searching my family roots I have recently been informed all Ayers of various spellings are of the Hay clan. (no idea why since Aryshire is the other side the island?) But Hay.....glad to be aboard!(perhaps Alan you might provide
me some education here...

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Alan Hay

Hi Robert, good to be in touch. It's true that the name Ayer (although without the 's'

appears on all the lists of Clan Hay septs, but I'm not clear why, or what is the specific connection. Let me do some digging.....

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The Hay family (also of Norman descent) inherited the estate of Neidpath through marriage to Sir Simon's only daughter around 1312 and probably built the L-plan keep in the early 14th century. The lat...

The Hay family (also of Norman descent) inherited the estate of Neidpath through marriage to Sir Simon's only daughter around 1312 and probably built the L-plan keep in the early 14th century. The late 17th century re-working of the upper battlements of Neidpath are very misleading and give a false 'folly like' appearance. Originally the battlements probably had simple bartizans (roofless turrets). Also the main enrty to the castle was within the re-entrant angle between the two towers of the L-plan facing the Tweed. Reached by way of a detachable/collapsible wooden staircase, adding to the castle's inaccessibility during times of siege. And not by the present modern entry at courtyard level. Although this may be part of an earlier postern gateway. But because of the jumbled late 17th century re-workings this is difficult to ascertain. The ornate courtyard gateway wall and outer buildings are also of a late 17th century period but contain fabric from earlier 16th century Hay buildings. Also pre-dating even these was probably a wooden palisade to protect the cluster of wood n' wattle construction buildings that appeared beside such great keeps in the 14th century. But as time progressed this would have been replaced by a stone Barmkin wall in the 16th century with cannon loops for small arms fire to add to the courtyard's defenses. The lowland Hays resided at Neidpath as their chief residence until 1357 when they obtained the East Lothian estate of Yester through marriage, building a courtyard castle astride the ruins of the famous subterreanal 'Goblin Hall'. Yester castle then became their principal seat, with Neidpath retained as a second home in their role as Sheriffs of Peebles. The Hay family had two main branches of note, the Hays of Yester and Neidpath in the Lowlands. While in the Highlands were the more powerful Hays Earls of Erroll of Slains and Delgatie castles. Though like so many other Scottish families, there were many more sub-branches both legitimate and illegitimate, interlinked through marriage and vassaldom to other Clans. With reference to the Highland Hays they were tenuously allied militarily to the Gordons of Huntly castle and at times to the Keiths of Dunnottar. While the Lowland Hays were allied to the Douglases, originally through vassaldom to the 'Black' Douglas but then by marriage to the 'Red' Douglases. Who in turn routed the 'Black' Douglases on behalf of King James II (1437-1460) of Scots. This destruction of the 'Black' Douglases and their allies the Lyndsays, was also supported by the Gordons and Hays in the north and both families received rewards from the King for their loyal service. However, in 1488 the Highland and Lowland Hays along with the Gordons and Keiths appear to have deserted King James III (1460-1488) of Scots prior to the battle of Sauchieburn near Stirling. Where he was killed by a rebel Scots army led by his son Prince James (later King James IV). In 1513 Baron Yester and the Hays of Erroll fell at the battle of Flodden along with King James IV (1488-1513) of Scots and many other nobles including the Douglases, Gordons and Keiths. During the wars of the 'Rough Wooing' from 1544 to 1549,where by use of castle burning the English hoped to force the marriage of Mary Queen of Scots (1542-1587) to the English Prince Edward (later King Edward VI of England 1547-1553) Neidpath appears to have escaped the wrath of the English while Yester was attacked in 1547 and 1548. In the first assault the castle was stoutly defended by the 4th Baron Yester and the English withdrew to join their main army at Fawside hill prior to the battle of Pinkie. During this battle the Scots were routed by combined use of land and ship based bombardment. Baron Yester while advancing with the 'Red' Douglas contingent was unhorsed and captured by the English spending four years in the Tower of London. In the second assault in 1548 Yester was eventually taken by the English and local 'Assured Scots' (who favoured the marriage of Mary to Edward). The English then raised a fort at Haddington to "insult over and annoy the whole Kingdom". In desperation the Scots called on French military aid in evicting these unwanted hostile tenants at Haddington. The French agreed to this in exchange Mary was sent to France to marry Francis the Dauphin, heir to the French throne. So Mary could never marry the English Prince Edward, thus symbolically ending the 'Rough Wooing' wars. But the English continued to burn castles and villages throughout the Lothians and Borders regardless. Yester was again recaptured by the Scots but may have been left in ruins while the siege of Haddington continued. After the end of the 'Rough Wooing' Yester appears to have been abandoned as a residence and was replaced by a new Yester tower close to the modern Adam's style Yester House. But this too appears to have suffered destruction and is untraceable today, likely due to the Hays association with Mary Queen of Scots. Sadly when Mary returned to Scotland after the death of Francis she was despised by are own Lords and people as a foreign whore. Consequently any who sided with Mary were later punished by the 'King's party' (James VI) having their castles and lands sacked. The Hays were among Queen Mary's most loyal subjects and hospitably entertained her at Neidpath castle in 1563. They also fielded armies on her behalf at the battle of Carberry Hill in 1567 against the 'King's party' and at Langside in 1568. Prior to her exile in England where she was executed by Queen Elizabeth I (1558-1603) of England in 1587. Surprisingly, King James VI (1567-1603) of Scots and King James I (1603-1625) of England held a Privy Council at Neidpath in 1587. Wither the Hays were back in Royal favour at this point or not isn't clear. In 1646 Hay of Neidpath was created 1st Earl of Tweeddale by King Charles I (1625-1649) and commanded a Royal regiment for the King in the confused conflicts with Oliver Cromwell's Parliament forces. In 1650 after the defeat of the Scots army by Oliver Cromwell at the battle of Dunbar, Neidpath was attacked and after a limited bombardment eventually surrendered. This may explain some of the damaged on the Tweed side of the Tower, though part of this fell down due to neglect in 1790. In the 1680's Neidpath was purchased by William Douglas, Duke of Queensberry for his second son, the Earl of March, from whom is descended the present Earl of Wemyss and March. In the late 17th and 18th centuries Neidpath was extensively rebuilt with 'modern' folly-like work. However, despite this it still stands as an impressive example of an L-plan Keep and a reminder of the Borders warlike past.

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Katrina MacGregor

This is my paternal clan.

May 12, 2013 5:12 pm
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Annual Gathering of Clan Hay

Clan events will take place between 3rd and 4th August 2013 at various locations in Scotland

These include, the Aboyne Highland games, Ceilidh at Crathes Village Hall, and Lunch at the Clan Hay Centr...

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Near Peebles, Scottish orders. Neidpath was originally held by the Frasers but passed by marriage to the Hays in 1312. Mary, Queen of Scots, stayed here in 1563, as did James VI in 1587. The Hays w...

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Duns, Scottish Borders. Held by several families including by the Hays of Drumelzeir, whose descendants still own it. The ghost of Aleander Hay, who was killed at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815, is...